Liminal with Mike Brown

Enneagram Restored
Season 4, Episode 11 • 1:37:54

Liminal with Mike Brown

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It can be annoying to be in a liminal space. Not only are liminal spaces necessary, but they are so beneficial. And today I’m having a conversation with Mike Brown, Pastor and Author of Liminal: Transitions, Thresholds and Waiting With God in the Space Between, to talk about the benefits of liminal space.

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Braylon Williams is a visionary entrepreneur and the driving force behind Morningstar Interiors and the Enneagram Restored Podcast. With a deep commitment to transforming spaces and lives, Braylon’s journey reflects resilience and self-discovery. Graduating from Evangel University as the first in his family to earn a bachelor’s degree, he has navigated numerous personal challenges. His podcast explores the Enneagram as a tool for growth, while his design work weaves storytelling into interiors. An active community leader and educator, Braylon’s mission is to guide others toward restoration and positive transformation.

His own journey with the Enneagram began as part of a broader path toward resilience, identity, and inner work. At first, wanting not to be left out of the conversation, he quickly claimed Type Eight without much reflection. But a lingering conversation with a counselor stayed with him—and in 2024, he found deep relief in discovering his true type: Three. Even before understanding the system, Braylon felt drawn to the Enneagram’s core truth—that it doesn’t box people in, but rather reveals a path back to your authentic self. That clarity continues to fuel his passion for the work.

Whether through design, podcasting, or community dialogue, Braylon’s mission is the same: to guide others toward restoration and transformation—from the inside out.

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